- September 1st, 2008 |
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How to spot a bad PUA
I’ve just been browsing Thudercat’s seduction lair, and have seen a young, very creepy looking Ross Jeffries (remind you of Screech anyone?) try to argue the benefits of Satanism to a crowd of braying morons. Yes really. Check out the youtube videos, they’re hilarious.
I’m not sure why I love watching irreverent clips like that, but I do. Thank you!
Anyhow, on to more important matters; anyone who’s read the posts of my slightly irate colleague, Evil PUA, will be aware that there is a certain amount of frustration in the community about people who teach others how to get women whilst getting no results themselves.
You need no qualifications to become a teacher of pick up, and in a lot of cases you don’t need to prove yourself, just talking a good game will be enough. When I was learning I had various personal tuition from some of the supposedly best trainers in the world. Only a few of the people I met were really good, and the majority of them were simply okay. I also trained with some guys who were terrible, who literally had no game, but were still making a living from teaching pick up. All they did was approach women, and get blown out. They would rarely get a number, or even stay in set for that long, but would still walk away talking about how many IOIs they had just been given, and how that girl was ‘totally into them’. Not good.
If you are going to market yourself as a seduction guru, you should be no less than AWESOME at getting women. Someone who: ‘once slept with a model’, or ‘always gets loads of numbers’ or ‘always hangs around with hot girls’ is not necessarily a PUA. A PUA is someone who can get results, anytime, anywhere, and who can impart the knowledge of what makes them good to other people. Being good with women is not enough; you must be able to teach as well.
A PUA can make a girl who is not initially attracted to him become so. They don’t play a numbers game, which involves approaching hundreds of women every week, playing the law of averages, and getting lucky. They run a smooth, solid pattern of behaviour that they’ve worked on, which gets results, regardless of looks, and which can be taught. There are very few gurus out there who can actually teach this, but those who can are worth their weight in gold.
So how do you spot a bad PUA from a good one?
Firstly, a lot of PUAs have material up on the internet, and they have videos of themselves in the field, approaching women. Have a look, and see what you think of the person’s style. If you have any doubts or questions, contact them.
Secondly, they should be able to offer you a money back guarantee if you’re not happy with the training. If at any point during the training you don’t feel that you’re learning, or you just don’t feel that you’re getting what you paid for, you should be able to walk away, only having paid for the amount of time you’ve been there. Be wary of anyone who doesn’t offer this.
Thirdly, try and seek out a ‘word of mouth’ recommendation for the person you’re going to train with, rather than just internet traffic, or complimentary posts. Some PUAs deserve their awesome reputation, and can do amazing things, where as others are just good at online marketing.
Lastly, a good PUA will tailor the training to you. Anyone can help someone memorize a routine and encourage that person to open a ton of women with it, but that is not teaching game. A good teacher of pick up will analyse what you are doing right, and what you’re doing wrong, and will be able to give you the skills and knowledge to be better with women than you were.
There are a lot of men out there who desperately want to be better with women and are willing to pay people to teach them. I used to be one. And speaking from experience, there are many people out there who are teaching game who shouldn’t be, as they just don’t know what they’re talking about. They hide behind jargon, marketing and relentless self promotion, which is fundamentally dishonest.
Pick up can be taught, and mastering game is a challenging, rewarding, and ultimately enjoyable experience, and I would advise anyone thinking about learning it to do so, just beware of imitations.
Brad
For nearly one and half years, I spent 1 - 5 hours most nights studying pick-up material.
I practiced picking-up women - or trying - mainly on weekends resulting in some of the
most hilarious, side-splitting moments you can imagine. I learned the hard way, the very hard way.
I am Brad, nice to meet you!


EXCELLENT article! And this is coming from me, “Dr. Yates Canipe’s new whizkid at Straightforward, Inc.” (LOL somebody actually blogged me as that)
We see PUAs come and go all the time. Some become media darlings and big hits. Others hide under a rock never to be heard from again. A large number of the popular ones can only get laid with pill-popping alcoholic housewives and trailer-park fatties.
You said it best, great post!
You might enjoy this article called “Do Women Manipulate You?”
http://scottbolan.com/articles/women.html
It’s good advice as some men are so eager to test their newly-learned skills and get some booty, they end up with a peck on the cheek and an empty-wallet!
Best to you,
Scott Bolan